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Open your fu**ing mouth and eat the riiice! A CYF thread
Kazuya_UK
After all the talk of HK films lately I thought a Chow Yun Fat thread would be a good idea. Find your favourite clips and add them via youtube. I'm gonna start with three of my faves, and resist the temptation to post anything Hard Boiled related yet Grin

Spoilers can and will occur below - you have been warned!!!!

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ANIDFeswlHg[/youtube]

THIS is where CYF as a legend was born... this may look like nothing by todays standards but this was and still is beyond cool. The music, the build up, the way the door opens in slow motion to suddenly... BANG! And then the obligatory toothpick in the mouth. One of my favourite ever scenes from any movie.

Note: See here for the UK dubbed version with different music, both are actually kinda cool but the original is best.

If you wondered where my thread title is from, this is where:

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G0fEJt54vxI&mode=related&search=[/youtube]

If you have ANY dignity... LOL

And finally:

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IVA3y2snYRE[/youtube]

This is a complete spoiler so beware if you haven't seen A Better Tomorrow II. It's not as good as the first film overall, but this gunfight is just insanely cool, and when that grenade explodes behind CYF... well in reaility it did actually almost take him with it apparently. Kick-fucking-ass! Grin

So, care to post some of your faves? I know we have some CYF fans here! Grin

Kaz
Edited by Kazuya_UK on 05. October 2007 22:36
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Shiny
I'm not sure if I should watch any of them... Hard Boiled is the only CYF movie I've seen (I think). :redface:
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Kazuya_UK
They will seem a bit more dated than Hard Boiled, and a bit less action oriented (especially ABT1), but if you can get into them, and get decent versions with good subtitles (unlike my old ABT2 VHS!), then they are more than worth it. John Woo has done some great films, I don't think the majority of his American cinema work really matches up even remotely to his best HK stuff.

To sum it up though, if you like Hard Boiled, get ABT1 and ABT2 and watch them both... it's worth a shot and you'll at least enjoy some of the action! Grin

Kaz
Edited by Kazuya_UK on 05. October 2007 23:22
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sotenga
YES! YES! YES! MY MAN!!! Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin

MEGA SPOILERS AHOY





Oh, but I fucking loved A Better Tomorrow so much when I first saw it. It proved to me that Chow Yun Fat ruled absolutely, and Ti Lung and Leslie Cheung (major R.I.P.) are also excellent. Hey, it wasn't JUST the gunplay and badass gangster shit, but there was some genuinely great drama, and it's a staple of HK cinema viewing. Though, I was a bit shocked to find Mark's leg get wasted pretty early into the film, as everything I read built him up as a super-badass... then after his falling, he was demoted and bossed around by that bastard Shing (Waise Lee was also great in this film). He still managed to rule a lot, especially in the garage shootout. It moved a slight bit slow in the middle, but I didn't think the emotion was being laid on too thickly. I thought it was just right myself, feeling pity for the good guys while that bastard Shing was pulling the strings. Then came the climax by the docks, which was totally great. So many pyrotechnics and blastings, lemme tell ya. I was SO hoping that Ho would avenge Mark's death and preserve Kit's honor by wasting Shing at the end... and it happened. Oh, but an excellent conclusion overall.

About a year later (and roughly two months ago), I saw ABT2 and became familiar with good ol' Ho and Kit, and was introduced to Uncle Lung, whom I really liked. It got brutal fast and seriously on edge, and I loved it just about as much as the first one. The story wasn't quite as great in my opinion, as although Ken was awesome, the whole "twin brother" angle felt a bit off somehow. It's great that they got CYF back in, he almost felt like a rehashing of Mark, which was simultaneously a good and not-so-good thing. However, it made up for that with the BEST ENDING BLOODBATH I HAVE EVER BEHELD. Not only was there a massive body count just being racked up by Ho and Lung, but Ken was in his element with tons of grenades (CYF's genuine reaction to the surprise explosion outside the house cracked me up, and so did when he said "No... no no no no, sorry" and blasted the guy). Then Ho got his hands on a sword and got off several melee, and then that really pissed off guy got a freaking axe as well, and then Ken and that mysterious shades guy that was Ko's bodyguard and the guy who killed Kit was eventually slain by Ken, and then Lung's final exchange with Ko just ruled ("What makes you think that bad guys always win?" ) What a fucking slaughterfest. I LOVE CHOW YUN FAT AND JOHN WOO, DAMMIT.

It's too bad that ABT3 turned out to be pretty blargh... though, when Woo and Tsui Hark went separate ways, Woo did create Bullet in the Head. I've yet to see it, but lord, I so fucking want to. Granted, that doesn't have Woo, but I thought I'd give mention.

Oh, and Hard-Boiled? I exhausted all my energy ranting about ABT and its sequel, but through gasps of breath, let me * decla*re that Ha*rd-Boi*led is * so fu*cking *grea*t!!! \m/
Edited by sotenga on 06. October 2007 00:21
"Well, that's that! The exit's that way!"

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Shiny
Kazuya_UK wrote:
They will seem a bit more dated than Hard Boiled, and a bit less action oriented (especially ABT1), but if you can get into them, and get decent versions with good subtitles (unlike my old ABT2 VHS!), then they are more than worth it. John Woo has done some great films, I don't think the majority of his American cinema work really matches up even remotely to his best HK stuff.

To sum it up though, if you like Hard Boiled, get ABT1 and ABT2 and watch them both... it's worth a shot and you'll at least enjoy some of the action! Grin

Kaz


What I actually meant in my poorly worded way was I'm not sure if I should watch the clips you posted for fear of spoiling the films, which I haven't seen yet... And I'm definitely no reading sotenga's post. Wink
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Kazuya_UK
Shiny wrote:
Kazuya_UK wrote:
They will seem a bit more dated than Hard Boiled, and a bit less action oriented (especially ABT1), but if you can get into them, and get decent versions with good subtitles (unlike my old ABT2 VHS!), then they are more than worth it. John Woo has done some great films, I don't think the majority of his American cinema work really matches up even remotely to his best HK stuff.

To sum it up though, if you like Hard Boiled, get ABT1 and ABT2 and watch them both... it's worth a shot and you'll at least enjoy some of the action! Grin

Kaz


What I actually meant in my poorly worded way was I'm not sure if I should watch the clips you posted for fear of spoiling the films, which I haven't seen yet... And I'm definitely no reading sotenga's post. Wink


LOL that might be a good idea not to watch them and Sotenga's post will spoil almost everything! Just a quick thing if you want to watch those two films: Play.com are now selling Better Tomorrow Ultimate Edition for 4.99 while ABT2 is selling for the same (not sure how great the transfer on 2 is, while 1 is remastered). Still, for a tenner it's well worth the risk even if you didn't like the films, but I am sure you will! Smile

Sotenga: I think I agree with every single word you posted, that sums up both films pretty much perfectly to me. I never have seen ABT3 though, funnily enough I was speaking to someone yesterday who was telling me it's actually a decent film, but most other reports I have read ranged from "ok" to "shit", but I'll get round to it sometime, might as well give it a chance.

Hard Boiled is awesome, not much more really needs to be said, in terms of action it really cannot be beaten, it's just so brilliantly choreographed that some of the gunfights almost seem like Kung-Fu fights, and you have to love Mad Dog as the compassionate villian. As for other CYF films, ever seen The Killer, "Tiger on the Beat" (comedy/action), God of Gamblers or any others? God of Gamblers is a personal fave of mine.

As a side note, I was pretty shocked when I found out Leslie Cheung died... I can't remember too much about the circumstances surrounding his death, but to find out he had committed suicide was a bit of a shock. Great actor.

Kaz
Edited by Kazuya_UK on 06. October 2007 17:03
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sotenga
MORE SPOILERAGE, SO SORRY










Yes, I was indeed stoked to hear that Dragon Dynasty was going to be releasing Hard-Boiled, especially since the definitive Criterion version was impossible to obtain. I snagged it up, and oh dear LORD, but it ruled. You knew from the opening teahouse gunfight that this wasn't your average cop flick. Nobody gave a damn about the innocents; the bad guys were shooting them left and right just to get them out of their way! It only got better from there. I could tell CYF was just totally in his element in this film, especially when arguing with the superintendent. How he just totally tore ass at the warehouse shootout was... oh, dear lord. A fucking walking artillery, practically. So many explosions, there was! Oh, and the hospital finale... I didn't know exactly how great things could be here, as the entire second half of the film took place in the hospital, but holy fucking shit, they delivered. WOO AND CYF FUCKING DELIVERED, DAMMIT. It started out all unassuming and innocent at the hospital until Mad Dog (Philip Kwok rules, BTW), slit that informant's throat. That bit gave me chills, it did. It just gradually crescendoed into the realm of total chaos, and I don't know what was greater; the two-minute-and-forty-five-second uncut bit, or Tequila saving all the babies and having the last one piss on him to douse the fire. THAT IS INCREDIBLE. I loved it all around, and I sure would like to see it again... which I can, because I own it. Grin

Oh, and Tony Leung Chiu-Wai totally ruled here too. Speaking from a non-gay standpoint, that guy is damned handsome. I'd have to argue even moreso in HB before he developed his almost-now trademark goatee. He's also one of my favorite HK actors, and he was incredible in HB.

It's been quite a while since I've last seen The Killer, but what I do remember was that it was absolutely excellent from start to finish. CYF and Danny Lee had to be one of the most unlikely dynamic duos I ever observed, and their conflicts led to incredible character developments. In fact, an interesting trivia bit I read was that Jeff's clothes started out dark in the film, but then changed to lighter colors to reflect the good guy nature growing within him. Conversely, Li's clothes went from light to dark to reflect the conflict in his soul of assisting a killer-for-hire and starting to question the whole police system. At the excellent final church shootout, they both wore black-and-white clothing pieces to reflect the duality of their nature, which was incredibly clever. I'd love to see it again sometime, and if there's a Dragon Dynasty release in the work, you know I'm all over that.

Oh, but the ending... oh, man. Jeff dies, Sally stays blind, and even though that fuckhole Johnny gets what's coming to him, Li guns him down and likely faces severe consequences for violating protocol. Even though justice was served, nobody won. What a fucking downer... love it, though. Hey, down endings can be the best types sometimes. It all depends on the flow and mood of the film all throughout. Here? Just perfect. Thumbs Up

Sadly, the four films that I've mentioned are actually the only ones with CYF I've seen. Though, I've been meaning to get around to God of Gamblers for a while. I'll put it to the top of my Netflix queue if and when I reactivate it.
Edited by sotenga on 07. October 2007 04:19
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Goemon
Goddammit Kaz. Between your avatar and that clip you just made me make plans to see that movie again.... and go play "The Specialists" Half-Life mod.
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sukotsuto
CHOW YUN FAT MOVIES FTW!!

Hard-boiled is a ballet of guns, torrents of bullets and 302 dead bodies (4th highest movie death count according to: http://www.movieb...ounts.com/)

My pops rented Hard-boiled years ago and no doubt in mind that movie has the most beautiful gunfight sever. I now feel the need to buy a copy of that movie, as well as check out The Killer!

Oh and I have this picture of my dad and in that picture, my dad looks A LOT like Chow Yun Fat. There's this angle of camera shot and this smile he has that made him look like CYF, to the point that I'd fool some of my friends that I met CYF in person and show them that picture! I couldn't find that picture at the moment, but once I find it, there's no doubt that I'll scan it Grin


As for Leslie Chung, he's an awesome actor and I was shocked and saddened when he died. I watched (and loved) that horror movie ("Inner Senses"Wink he made, which was his last movie SPOILER:And the ending is eerily similar to how Leslie Chung commited suicide in real life (jumping off the rooftop of a high-rise building) Shock
RIP Leslie Chung. You will always be remembered!
 
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merlin
I am a bit late in posting here but I only just found this thread. I am totally obsessed with Chow Yun Fat and John Woo films. I agree with everything people here have said about The Killer, A Better Tomorrow, A Better Tomorrow 2 and Hard Boiled. They are incredible films. I think Kaz mentioned The God of Gamblers as well and I agree this is superb.

I have just had A Better Tomorrow weekend and watched all three films. Even though I have seen the first two loads of times it was the first time I had ever seen ABT3. I wasn't expecting much from it after reading some negative reviews but I was pleasantly surprised. It is actually a very good film and well worth checking out. However the first two films are still better.

I also recommend checking out 'Hong Kong 1941' starring Chow Yun Fat which is not really an action film more a drama. It is very good and Chow Yun Fat's performance is superb. I think he won a best actor award for his role in the film. The film is set during the Japanese occupation of Hong Kong in WW2.

I don't think anyone has mentioned in this thread about the Ringo Lam films that Chow Yun Fat has been in. In 'City on Fire' he is an undercover cop and Danny Lee from The Killer is also in this film. I read that the story of Reservoir Dogs is based on City on Fire. The film is excellent anyway.

Also directed by Ringo Lam is 'Full Contact'. I cannot really stress how awesome this film is. If you like Hong Kong action films then this is essential. Apart from featuring Chow Yun Fat it also features Simon Yam (a great actor who was also in Bullet in the Head) and Anthony Wong from Hard Boiled.

I have also got to mention Bullet in the Head because it is my all-time favourite film. Definitely check this out if you haven't already. I think it is John Woo's best film but many will disagree and say The Killer instead

I was just wondering if anyone can please recommend any other HK action films (preferably not Kung Fu or comedy) as I am always on the lookout for more. I wouldn't mind seeing a few more with Simon Yam because he is a fantastic actor.
Edited by merlin on 29. October 2007 16:03
 
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