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Ever skipped a generation of gaming or almost did so?
marktheshark
I'm asking this because afer hearing info about the e3 2011 conference, I really felt like skipping the next gen & possibly beyond that. There's already enough crap in the gaming industry already going on like increased emphasis on DLC, the 360 & PS3 resembling too much like phony PC's, the spotty localization records of some companies (Nintendo, Bandai-Namco, & SNKP USA come to mind), etc. But then I hear about stuff like the Wii U & the PS Vita & it just makes the whole situation worse. The Wii U & maybe the 3DS too is probably going to end up in a fate similar to the Gamecube's & the PS Vita resembles so much like a smartphone.

Oh well, at least retro gaming can keep me busy until modern gaming becomes fun again.
 
NeoGeoNinja
marktheshark wrote:
I'm asking this because afer hearing info about the e3 2011 conference, I really felt like skipping the next gen & possibly beyond that. There's already enough crap in the gaming industry already going on like increased emphasis on DLC, the 360 & PS3 resembling too much like phony PC's, the spotty localization records of some companies (Nintendo, Bandai-Namco, & SNKP USA come to mind), etc. But then I hear about stuff like the Wii U & the PS Vita & it just makes the whole situation worse. The Wii U & maybe the 3DS too is probably going to end up in a fate similar to the Gamecube's & the PS Vita resembles so much like a smartphone.

Oh well, at least retro gaming can keep me busy until modern gaming becomes fun again.

I VERY NEARLY...
completely skipped THIS generation (which was then, the 'next' gen) as I was really uninterested. However, as tends to happen EVERY generation... at least ONE game will come out that you really want to play. This gen (before I had EVER played them, they were merely announcements at the time) I was pumped for Resident Evil 5 - as RE4 was, and possibly still is, my fave game ever (in 3D videogaming terms!), KOF 12, Street Fighter 4, Blaz Blue, Tekken 6 and VF5. Yes, all fighters, but they're my fave genre so. I also had an interest in the forthcoming Ridge Racer (7) and any upcoming sequels to the likes of Silent Hill, WipeOut, Burnout, Tenchu, Shinobido, Splinter Cell... and so on and so forth.

ANYWAY...
when SF4 and RE5 were finally released so close to one another (Early '09) I cracked and bought a PS3 (as you may have guessed, MS's 360 has never been a factor for me) and picked up the VF5 & RR7 I had always wanted too, along the way.

In short, none of these titles exceeded, or perhaps even met my expectations. And this is 'fine'. Just fine though. As I sat on my PS3 anticipating what was to arrive. But again, KOF12 fell flat, BBlue was just GG again (not a huge fan of either) and I didn't like BOParadise either. MVC3 also failed to grab me, which is a real shame, as it looks and moves splendidly!

Same thing happened with the Wii, when they released Tatsunoko VS Capcom. I just had to have the game available to me, so I bought a Wii just for it. However, in an odd twist of fate, I found I had more in common with the Wii's more hardcore titles and thus, have had arguably more out of the Wii this gen that it's HD counterparts.

There ARE plenty of great games out there for PPL to enjoy, but this generation just isn't for me, and I highly doubt the next one will be either. Again, I will be very inclined to sit back and wait and see what happens. This isn't to say that I haven't had some great experiences on the PS3, albeit, unexpected ones. For example, the MotorStorm series; it completely caught me off guard. I quite fancied the sequel 'Pacific Rift' and was completely blown away by it when I bought it! A truly magnificent game. I went back along the way and bought the awesome prequel too. I have also enjoyed the F.E.A.R. series and Lost Planet 1 too. Tekken 6 turned out as well, or even better than I expected (aside the mad juggles!) and WipeOut HDFury is very nice too. IF you saw my PS3 collection though, you'd perhaps wonder why I even bother to hang onto to it. I'll let you in on that secret: KOF13 Wink

ANYWAY...
I did have a large amount of faith in Nintendo's up and coming console, but I keep hearing negative things about it: single touch screen (resistive?), no DVD playback (w/upscaler), no Wii upscaling capability, no GC support etc. I still remain optimistic on the whole, but I feel a little defiled by Nintendo before I even get in the queue to purchase.

SHORT ANSWER:
No. I have never skipped a gaming generation since being put on this Earth, however, I reckon this is the most serious contender yet for the first I'll ignore and maybe even signifying this gen as my last. I can't say for sure, but that's how I feel coming off the back of the 360 vs PS3 era.

I might even JUST end up with a Vita! Never thought I'd ever see the day but, you can play anywhere online with that thing, it has great capability AND (I learned recently) the ability, in some games (perhaps most?), to be able to be played online against fellow PS3 players too - like the forthcoming WipeOut! That's quite exciting stuff imo - handheld to home console online compatibility. Quite a step.

Ninja
(p.s. sorry for the ill-constructed babble. It just came out here and there in no particular order Smile)
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sukotsuto
I didn't really pay attention to this year's E3, especially if I'm already satisfied with the games I already have here. Nothing I've heard in this year's E3 made me excited for a new system or game.
 
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RiKo
i skipped the whole of the PS2, Xbox + GC generation practically although it was from ill-health rather than choice. i have to say its not quite the same going to play games that a few years earlier people were raving about . so i do feel that i missed out a bit. you do need to experience them at the time really. i mean who plays Pong now? its still a fun game but we have other games we would rather play.

Well i have seen anything much of the next generation of consoles yet. The Wii U and 3DS dont interest me that much at the moment but i will be keeping an eye on them to see what games are being released. as for the next Xbox and PS. they are still a few years off i think. i will almost certainly get one if they are half-decent. im slightly worried about the more causal-orientated focus of all 3 console manufacturers in recent times, since it seems that this is where a lot of the money is to be made. us traditional gamers might lose out a bit im afraid.

---------------------------------------------

My opinion on *this* generation is that a lot of what people say is negative bullsh*t. i mean watch this video.

http://www.youtub...N1TJP1cxmo

if this game was on Dreamcast people would be kissing its ass. same with Bioshock, Crackdown, Bulletstorm or as im sure Ninja would agree - Lost Planet.. the problem i think is that the games are making less of an impact because they are more evolution that revolution. Personally i loved Streetfighter IV. the first time Capcom have got a 3D Streetfighter playing right *and* they made it accessible for newcomers. They actually made the beat-em-up genre popular again...think about that for a moment. would you have thought that possible a few years ago? + we can play it online. i think hardcore 2D fighter players will love it less than everyone else but tough - you already have a zillion of those games you can play on almost every format known to man.

There's too many big blockbuster film-like games yes - which i find dull too. But isn't Final fantasy XIII one of the dullest? and people loved that crap back in PSOne days. We now have new download games - Outrun 2 HD, Rez HD, Afterburner Climax, Ikaruga, Trials, Limbo, Geometry Wars, Super Stardust etc etc. + lots of original games which could *never* have existed in the PS2 generation. So while i would say this generation isnt great for the impact it has made - it's not bad! 2D games have started to come back this gen which is a good sign for the future.. and in general games are improving all the time. Anyone with a PAL Dreamcast or a PS2 really needs to go back and remember all the crap that was released. some of those games were shockingly bad.

I miss Shenmue and there is an understandable lack of risk-taking by developers and variety in the type of games released is lacking but this generation is not as bad as everyone will have you believe. its still possible to enjoy it Smile
Edited by RiKo on 17. June 2011 15:20
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shion
Last gen, this gen and (most likely) the next. Yes, I really am retro! LOL Although, you might say I've dabbled in this generation since I have an iPhone & iPad. Once, a buddy of mine showed me his PSP; I held it in my hands and played the racing game loaded in it for a couple minutes. It was "meh." Otherwise, I've never even touched a PS3/360/Wii, etc. My sister's ex used to have a PS2. When they broke up, he left the gaming gear with my sister, and my sister game the stuff to me. I immediately gathered it all up and took it straight to the game shop (to sell)! Of course, at the time, I was a poor college student, but I still wasn't interested with it. Advances in emulation have really breathed new life into my passion for gaming. Who knows, maybe if emulation didn't blow up, I would've been forced to keep with the current gens, and I'd have a PS3 sitting under my TV now...
 
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cthulhu
I don't think I have skipped a generation yet...except for the Nintendo 64 because I thought it was utter crap.
My arcade stuff

"ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn! Ia! Ia! Cthulhu fhtagn!"
 
-SD-
I may as well have just skipped the last generation.

The Gamecube hardly got used other than swearing at Mario Kart for two weeks, and I never even made it through Wind Waker. I did enjoy Luigi's Mansion though. I got an Xbox with my tax rebate the week it was released over here. After completing Halo and JSR Future that sat there until XBMC came together, and then that was all I ever really used it for.

I've never ever owned a PlayStation2. I was more than happy with the Dreamcast fighting games, and the last few shmups as they were released.

I had more important things to do, like looking after babies and other such matters. However, the kids are old enough now so we can play games together. My boy quite enjoys platform games like Klonoa and Kirby on the Wii and my daughter likes Kinectimals, Fantastic Pets and EyePet.
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39 Color & 2 Cover Variations, 5 B&W
 
STE C
cthulhu wrote:
I don't think I have skipped a generation yet...except for the Nintendo 64 because I thought it was utter crap.


Haha I thought I was the only guy who dident care for that console, although I own one it was a few years after its release. I would class the N64 a the same generation as the PS1/Saturn and do not think its worth being described as a separate generation. I had a friend who traded his N64 in for a Saturn so he could play Sega/Capcom arcade conversions. Very wise I told him and he still agrees.

Ok on with the thread, I have never skipped a gen but I have sometimes joined the party later. For instance I did not have either a PS1 and Saturn until mid 96 , about 9 months later than release due to being poor ( unemployed) at the time. This was very painful not being able to afford a new console but I suppose I should have got my arse out of bed and looked harder for a job. Im not sure what this says about me as a person but I dont think its a problem spending a few years doing nothing as I did from 95-96 as it makes you look back and realize just how easy it is to fall into that trap that many people are happy to spend a lifetime doing f*ck all through choice.
Enough of that I also did not get a 360 until about March 2006 as I could not afford a HD TV ( back then you were looking at £800+ for a decent one) and I was still single and clubbing at the time so this took most of my income. I actually spent the first 6 months playing my 360 on my trusty Sony CRT or PC monitor. This gen is currently the only gen that I have slipped in and out of in terms of interest but this is probably due to me collecting NEOGEO,Megadrive ,Pc Engine & DC heavily the last 4 years and not due to the quality of games on this gen.

Now that my retro collection is complete I find that I am now taking an interest in my PS3/360 again as opposed to 2008/09 when I bought only about 3 games.But this has been handy as I am now picking up decent games for cheap that I was not interested in at the time eg Fear 2 , Singularity. I suppose its a little sad as I have now nowhere left to go but forward and embrace modern gaming unless I get bitten by the retro bug again and start on SNES,NES or something more specialist like the Colecovision, but this is unlikely.

I recall a guy who wrote to a computer magazine ( maybe Edge) in about 2003. His point was that he was just starting to get into the last gen ( PS1/Saturn) as opposed to the PS2/XBOX/CUBE. His point was that he chose to always be a generation behind so he could pick up games for under £10 ect. He would still keep up to date with gaming but only to scope out games he wanted to buy like years in the future and this lifestyle suited him fine he claimed. So I guess now he is picking up them great 128 bit classics and enjoying them due to the fact that they are great games and he has no desire for any thing better for a good maybe 3 years or so. I suppose he is in essence a retro collector but not in the true sense as 128bit is now his gen he is basically living 5 years in the past but he seemed happy enough. Interesting way to live I suppose and more than likely not the only one , I would say a few of us on here share some of his quirks.

I will no doubt get the new Microsoft/Sony console on release day ( hey dont you guys miss a console launch , like proper console not a bloody handheld). One of the reasons being I think the days of a new console being a complete failure are over I am pretty sure as observed in this gen the market is big enough to support 3 but the global recession may make the big boys more cautious and a single format still may prevail one day as the gaming press has claimed since 2000.
Edited by STE C on 19. June 2011 12:06
 
cthulhu
STE C wrote:
Ok on with the thread, I have never skipped a gen but I have sometimes joined the party later.


Same here...I bought a PS3 quite some time after it's release because I really didn't care about 90% of the games. After a while finally good games were released (Metal Gear Solid) and it became a lot more interesting to buy a PS3 (the console and games also became cheaper). Also nowadays I wait before getting a newly released console because I had some bad experiences in the past...I bought the PS1 only a couple of months after it was released, first it was way overpriced and secondly the first generation of PS1's develloped the disc hopping syndrome...after having a small fight with Sony, I sent it to them and they sent me a new one for a reduced price (thieving bastards!). Now I tend to way a few years until all the bugs have been fixed (first PS3's had problems with overheating).
My arcade stuff

"ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn! Ia! Ia! Cthulhu fhtagn!"
 
RiKo
I have arrived late to every generation since the SNES. It's the best way. when i got my Playstation 1 i bought it 2nd hand off a friend and it came with 5 controllers, a multi tap, 3 memory cards, a light gun and about 30 pretty good games. this was about 1 and half years after the PS had come out.

I did the same with Dreamcast - that was mainly cos i was going to get a PS2 but i was disappointed with the initial games so i bought a Dreamcast brand new instead for half the launch price. Much later i did get a PS2, Xbox and Gamecube. The PS2 especially - developers struggled with the hardware in the early years so was a good time to join later.

I also arrived late with my 360 and i got a really great pack (brand new with 2 wireless controllers + 60Gb hardrive and 2 free games and a Live deal for only £150. i have actually never played on the free games though - they were Kung Fu panda and Lego Indiana Jones. but the other stuff made the pack well worth while.
Edited by RiKo on 19. June 2011 13:47
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NEO-GEO man
I went in this order:

Commodore 64
Sega Master System 2
Sega MegaDrive
NEO-GEO AES and also MegaDrive 2 with a Mega CD 2
Sega Saturn / Sony Playstation / N64 / Panasonic 3DO
NEO-GEO MVS 4 slot / MVS single slot
PC gaming....

Ive now got the following in approximate order of whatever the order may be...

NES
Sega Master System x6 ( 4x model 2, 2x model 1 )
Sega Mega Drive x4 ( 2 of each )
Mega CD 2 x 2
Original GameBoy x1
SNES x3
Sega Game Gear x 3
Genesis Nomad x1
NEO-GEO AES
NEO-GEO MVS x3 ( 2 4s and a single )
NEO-GEO CD
Panasonic 3DO x 2 ( 1x FZ10, 1x FZ10-E )
Sony Playstation x 5 ( you need that many to compensate for failure )
Sega Saturn x3 ( 1 black PAL, 1 white Japan, and 1 smoke transparent grey Japan )
Nintendo 64 x 4 ( 1x gold controller pack, 1x pink transparent case, 2x pikachu version, 1 is orange Japan version, 1 is blue PAL version )
Sega Dreamcast x1

After all that, im not really sure if i skipped anything, at the time i did, cause i couldnt always aford to have what i wanted, but now ive gone back and got it all again.....
 
NeoGeoNinja
IT'S QUITE UNFORTUNATE...
and surprising to see that many of you 'skipped' the 128-bit generation/6th generation of gaming which, imo, was one of the most exciting... kicking off with the almighty Dreamcast of course. It was to the 3D gaming era, what 16-bit did for the 2D era: perfected it. That wasn't to mean that 2D was completely left out in the cold though. I have PLENTY of 2D fighters and Shmups for my DC and PS2, combined and in their own rights. The GameCube, admittedly, is only really a 3D orientated machine, but again, it's unique titles are great.

With all that in mind, I suppose (in a similar vein as to what Cthulhu said about his feelings towards the 64) I 'skipped' the Xbox. It never clicked with me and I suppose, really, it was the precursor and forefather to the type of console we have now in this generation... MicroSofts generation really, with Sony (would you believe?) playing catch up for around 2-3 years!

Don't get me wrong, and I'm NOT being hypocritical, I HAVE owned an Xbox - but not through the usual channels. I dug a friend out of a debt payment by buying his Xbox off him 1 MONTH after it's release. He asked for £150 for a 'new' Xbox, with RGB scart (not inc) and 4x games: Halo, DOA3, RalliSport Challenge & PGR. With the Xbox being £299 by itself at day one, a week later plus 4x £50 titles was a deal too good to ignore. Same happened with the 360 too! Seems the Xbox's have their way of finding ME as opposed to the other way around! Grin

Anyway, I had my fill of the Xbox (6 months or so) then sold the games and had it chipped and then the Bios flashed for emulation (yes, you HAD to chip the originals). It then served me as a 'try before you buy', actually leading me - unsuspectingly - into the world of collecting Shmups and Fighters for JAP Saturn & DC. So, I guess some good came of it all after all...

Ninja
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shion
marktheshark wrote:
I'm asking this because afer hearing info about the e3 2011 conference, I really felt like skipping the next gen & possibly beyond that. There's already enough crap in the gaming industry already going on like increased emphasis on DLC, the 360 & PS3 resembling too much like phony PC's...

Oh well, at least retro gaming can keep me busy until modern gaming becomes fun again.


I think you're right when you say that the next gen will surely be top-heavy computers guised as "entertainment systems." It's really not a good idea to buy something that is attempting to mimic a full on computer.. Consumers are getting smart, though, and may realize the better investment is indeed a real computer (And I am sure you know what brand I'd go with).
 
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NEO-GEO man
When it comes to computers, there IS no brand to go with....

Unless you want to be ripped off 18 ways to sunday ofcourse...

if youre talking about parts brands, like Gigabyte, Asus, or the like, that is acceptable, but if you mean Dell, or HP, or any of those rort boxes, youd have to be out of your mind.
 
NeoGeoNinja
NEO-GEO man wrote:
...but if you mean Dell, or HP, or any of those rort boxes, youd have to be out of your mind.

NO NO...
I don't think he meant ANY of those mate... right Tobal? Wink

Ninja
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shion
To be clear, I meant a non-Windows runnung computer, not those Mickey Mouse, plastic boxed deathtraps mentioned. Grin I'm not here to convert anyone though, and am certainly not trying to derail.

That was an interesting way of describing last gen, Ninja. I never thought of last gen being 3-D's "16-bit perfection."
Edited by shion on 21. June 2011 00:36
 
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NEO-GEO man
Thank god for that.... I was quite concerned....
 
merlin
Despite playing lot of console games during the 16 bit era I for quite a long time skipped the whole Saturn, Playstation, N64 generation. It's not that I had anything against those systems just that I got into PC gaming in a big way and completely stopped playing console games. I only got interested in that generation a few years back when I got a Saturn purely to play Capcom's D&D games. I came to realize what an awesome system the Saturn is with so many quality games especially the 2D ones. Definitely one of my favourite consoles now.

I'm a bit similar to you RiKo,STE and Cthulhu in that I tend to be pretty late to generations. I only got my PS2 and 360 a long time after those consoles were released.

Unlike some others at NGFL I'm not really particularly interested in the next gen right now including the next Wii. It's possible I might become interested if there's something I'm desperate to play but quite probably I'll be looking at a PC running Windows for most of my next gen gaming needs.
 
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