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Obscure 2D arcade fighting games
GeeseTheDuck
Yes, it works great too.
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http://www.youtube.com/user/VoidAvesta
LIFE_IN_2D
Hahaha I just DL'd it played it in MAME. My first impression: this game is pretty bad-ass. Pretty gritty and brutal sounds, I like the fact that nobody really has projectiles. I'm gonna go play this some more! I took a liking to the stereotypical karate guy (since he seems to be all about striking), I like how he has flies all around him Pfft.
Edited by LIFE_IN_2D on 07. May 2010 15:10
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shot in the eye
shot in the brain
shot in the ass...
 
1983parrothead
Which Korean arcade fighting game is the best?

Fight Fever (released in 1994 by Viccom, SNK's Korean distributor. They and SNK exchanged each others' ideas.)

Dragon Master (released in 1994 by Unico Electronics, which that company was later bought along with its game library by Konami and became Konami Korea. Unico Electronics also developed The Masters Fighters, published by Cinema Supply for PS1.)

Best of Best (released in 1994 by SunA Electronics, a company that often took graphics from other games and other types of media created by other companies, and modified them into their own for use in their own games.)
 
merlin
I'd say out of those that Dragon Master is the best one Parrothead. Definitely not amazing or anything but in it's favour it does look pretty good graphically. The gameplay is not too bad but IMO the characters are quite bland and unappealing designs. The guy who is practically naked and seems to fight in a sewer is the worst one. I never realised Konami had bought Unico and also didn't know about that Masters Fighters game. Interesting.

I'm glad that a few people here have taken an interest in Daraku. I had some good sessions with Ninja and 2D so far. More of those Japanese matches I mentioned have now been transferred to Youtube. Well worth checking out. These Japanese players know the game inside out.

http://www.youtub...olarasolas

Since Mame 0.138u2 came out a 'new' 2D arcade fighter is now playable on Mame: Alien Challenge. It's the first fighter from IGS and features a rather bizarre mix of characters including an alien, a clown, a werewolf, an American Football player and Santa Claus is the boss!

http://www.lucael...-Challenge

Move list:
http://www.ric.hi...index.html

I came across another game recently. I don't know if this would be classed as a fighter because although I think it has a 2 player vs battle mode it does seem to have scrolling sections too. It's Godzilla by Banpresto from 1993. So far it's unemulated by Mame.

Screenshots:

http://www.gameng...f376046394
 
shion
Don't know if this one's been mentioned already, but Monster Maulers by Konami. A unique approach to the genre.

Another one that doesn't get enough appreciation is Sega's Virtual-On: Cyber Troopers.

YouTube Video


This is another unique approach to the genre. Not to mention the graphics! To this day, it blows my mind how advanced Sega's Model 2 board was in the mid-90s.
Edited by shion on 28. June 2010 16:51
 
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vanilla8282
Pocket fighter is a pretty sweet obscure game i love the speed and simplicity of the whole game!!!!!!
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1983parrothead
OBSCURE ARCADE FIGHTING GAMES:

I've added more info about several fighting games in my long post on this thread's previous page.

Here are some info about Kaneko's Jackie Chan fighting games. They do have some similarities to the Mortal Kombat series, as well as Kaneko's Blood Warrior, but it is very fast-paced, has the same zooming seen in Art of Fighting, and features not only three versions of Jackie Chan, but also actors seen in his films, especially the one these fighters were promoting, Thunderbolt:

http://www.hardco...ackie3.htm


Let's not forget the very first one-on-one fighting game released in the arcades by Cinematronics in 1979, Warrior. With no music, some of the sound effects make it sound like you are fighting in some public garage. This was also the earliest weapon-based fighting game:

http://www.youtub...amp;fmt=18


Here is a list of Mortal Kombat titles, as well as fighting games influenced by Mortal Kombat in using both, death moves (first used in the gladiator mode in Taito and Allumer's Great Swordsman) and digitized sprites (first used in Home Data's The Last Apostle Puppet Show/Reikai Doushi: The Chinese Exorcist, while Atari's Pit-Fighter was the first fighting game to use digitized human actors):

http://svs13.at.i...eek.co.jp/


OBSCURE FIGHTING GAMES ON OTHER PLATFORMS:

I'm not sure if it is okay to discuss about home fighting games in this thread or not, but here's what I have to say about it. Speaking of Unico Electronics, here are some info (in Japanese) about the PS1 fighter they developed (with Cinema Supply publishing it), The Masters Fighters.

It's mostly using edited sprites from SNK's fighting games. Most people like to say it is a Street Fighter II rip-off, but I'd rather say it's an SNK fighter wannabe/rip-off/clone:

http://kakuge.inf...asters.htm


On Game Boy, most fighting games are ports of arcade fighting games like Takara's Nettou Garou Densetsu 2, Nettou Real Bout Garou Densetsu Special and World Heroes 2 Jet. Some are licensed like the very first handheld fighting game, Fist of the North Star, and one of the earliest, Otoko Jyuku. One original fighting game for Game Boy I can think of is Konami's Raging Fighter (known in Japan as Outburst).

For the Sega Game Gear, all I can think of is Virtua Fighter Animation (known in Japan as Virtua Fighter Mini), which was the first 2D Virtua Fighter title before the Sega Genesis/Mega Drive version of Virtua Fighter 2 was released, but I'm not sure if the Tiger R-ZONE versions of Virtua Fighter 1 and 2 count. There is also Sega's Buster Fight released only in Japan for Game Gear, but that was also released exclusively in North America for the Sega Master System as "Masters of Combat".
Edited by 1983parrothead on 28. July 2014 23:03
 
NeoGeoNinja
1st Super Tobalman wrote:
Another one that doesn't get enough appreciation is Sega's Virtual-On: Cyber Troopers.

This is another unique approach to the genre. Not to mention the graphics! To this day, it blows my mind how advanced Sega's Model 2 board was in the mid-90s.

I'M WITH YOU...
on BOTH counts here Tobal! Even to this day, Model 2 GFX still look sublime imo. So crisp, sharp and hi-res. I love them!

And I ALSO sit firmly in the Virtual On fan club... spent hours playing that bad-boy on my SS back in the day! Great game. Actually worked quite well on the SSpad too. Twin Sticks were obviously the way forward though...

Hmm, could do with some for my Oratorio Tangram at some point too... Hmm

Ninja
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shion
FTFW


www.videogamesblogger.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/04/virtual-on-twin-stick-controller-sega-saturn-version.jpg


Headbang 2
I need to get one of these myself. It's the only way to play!

You know now that you have Crossover, you can actually emulate this arcade board, right? Wink You need the "Model 2 Emulator" by ElSemi. Message me for more info...




1983parrothead wrote:
OBSCURE ARCADE FIGHTING GAMES:

Here is a list of Mortal Kombat titles, as well as fighting games influenced by Mortal Kombat in using both, death moves (first used in the gladiator mode in Taito and Allumer's Great Swordsman) and digitized sprites (first used in Home Data's The Last Apostle Puppet Show/Reikai Doushi: The Chinese Exorcist, while Atari's Pit-Fighter was the first fighting game to use digitized human actors):

http://svs13.at.i...eek.co.jp/


Nice find Parrot. That list is pretty comprehensive. However, it's missing a couple (off the top of my head): Fight for Life (Jaguar) and Battle Monsters (Saturn). You might wanna mention that to him, if possible. I may be mistaken, but Saturn has at least one other violent digitized spirte fighter... Hmm

Fight for Life
http://www.youtub...re=related
Battle Monsters
http://www.youtub...wfo0oFmEX4







Ultra violent fighters aside, I'm thinking of a couple other obscure fighters. I'm drawing blanks on titles, but I'm thinking of one that allowed free movement, yet was 2-D, if you know what I mean. It also included scantily clad (male) body builders. I'm also thinking about a softcore porn one, involving digitized sprites of real chicks. I'm (90%) sure the first one was a Japanese arcade game. I know the second was a Western computer game, but I'm not sure if it was an arcade game. I've seen these games on Youtube. Hmm
Edited by shion on 30. June 2010 03:38
 
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1983parrothead
Have you ever seen Sega's Time Traveler for Sega's Hologram arcade cabinet?

http://www.youtub...lyTasMAYic


Back when it was released in 1991, it was astounding to several people, but shortly after its release, it became overshadowed by Capcom's Street Fighter II and SNK's Fatal Fury 1, so Sega decided to include a fighting game for the Hologram arcade cabinet, titled as "Holosseum". The graphics of the characters appear to be illustrated by the same graphic designer of Sega's beat 'em up, D. D. Crew. Released sometime in 1992, Holosseum was probably Sega's earliest 2D fighting game after the release of Street Fighter II. If their 1976 arcade Heavyweight Champ doesn't count due to being a boxing game, and if the last parts of each stage in their Hokuto no Ken/Black Belt game for the Sega SG-1000 Mark III and Sega Master System don't count either, then Sega's first real fighting game is either Holosseum or Dark Edge. It was also the second and last arcade game for the Hologram cabinet.

Here is a gameplay video of it:

http://www.youtub...amp;fmt=22


The controls are quite simple (uses two buttons and an 8-way joystick), and the AI is pretty challenging (especially the later opponents). The roster is slightly larger (4) than Fatal Fury 1's (3), but unlike most modern-fighting games at the time, the characters use realistic fighting styles. It's probably best to play this on the real arcade cabinet, because playing it on MAME removes the holographic look and the background that can only be seen in the real arcade cabinet.


Before Virtua Fighter, Sega's Dark Edge was their first 3D fighting game; however, unlike Virtua Fighter, Dark Edge is sprite-based and became overlooked. Before Sega's AM2 team started with Virtua Fighter in 1993, they created a 2D fighting game the same year titled Burning Rival, which has some intense, anime-style graphics created by Zero-One Ltd. and a sense of humor. Unlike Virtua Fighter, however, other than being a 2D fighter instead of a 3D fighter, Burning Rival seems harder to play, while the head of Sega-AM2, Yu Suzuki, wasn't involved in the development of Burning Rival.

Dark Edge, Holosseum and Burning Rival, all three arcade fighting games were never ported to any home console. For those of you wanting to know the commands in Dark Edge and Burning Rival, use these links below:

http://www12.ocn....azade.html

http://www12.ocn....azabr.html

During 1993, Sega also created the more popular, home console exclusive Eternal Champions series, which doesn't need an introduction.

Another "Burning" fighting game Sega created was planned for the Sega CD, but became canceled. It was titled "Burning Fist: Force Striker".

http://www.youtub...amp;fmt=18
 
merlin
Thanks for all the info Parrothead. Never actually heard of that Time Traveller game by Sega before. Definitely looks interesting but after watching the videos I'm not sure if it and Holloseum would be all that much fun to play. I think the novelty might wear off pretty quick.

I just wanted to post a couple of videos in this thread. These videos by Plexo are quite possibly the first ever combo videos for Golden Axe The Duel and Dan Ku Ga. Really impressive stuff that I thought would interest a few people here. These games have more combo potential than I first realised. I play GATD regularly online so if anyone here is ever up for some matches in this great game then please let me know.

YouTube Video


YouTube Video

Edited by merlin on 29. July 2010 23:37
 
reelmojo
I just found out about another upcoming obscure fighter that hopefully won't stay obscure for long. It's called Skullgirls and it's being developed by a very small team but they recently teamed up with a company called Reverge that was formed by ex-Pandemic employees to help them get this game onto consoles. I'd assume it will be downloadable only, but who knows?

Skullgirls Website
Skullgirls thread on SRK - dig around for lots of info about how it plays.

Match video
YouTube Video


Gameplay explanation video
YouTube Video


2 year old Character Promo video
YouTube Video

 
NeoGeoNinja
I'D SEEN THIS...
Skullgirls stuff quite a while ago now. To be honest (and if that vid IS dated 08 Sep or 09 Aug) it doesn't look like it's moving forward at all right now. There is STILL only one character available to demo - and it's been like that since day one!! Concerning - especially as there is a vid (you posted) outlining the roster... 2 YEARS AGO!!!

ANYWAY FELLAS...
I recently and accidentally stumbled upon a 'classic' game that I simply must track down. It has a real 3DO & Jaguar "hum" to it... and I think in true Way of the Warrior (3DO) spirit, it too could be so bad it's good... I'm sure you know what I mean Hmm

SO WITHOUT DELAY, I BRING YOU...
YouTube Video


OH, AND A COMBO VIDEO FOR...
YouTube Video


HAHAHA...
I know how badly some of you will be wanting to play this bad boy *cough* MERLIN *cough* Wink

I know I do!

Ninja
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Bullet
Dan Ku Ga, I need to play that game like I need air. That throw into the atmosphere and the guy burns up on re-entry, great stuff!!!

Skullgirls, that game could be the second coming, but with that art style I hope I miss it. No Thanks.

Battle Monsters, is so bad it swing around to good again lol

Golden Axe The Duel, Got my Saturn Copy on a trip to LA a few years back, from a store call Game Dude lol Also its Golden Axe.
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merlin
Thanks for the info about Skull Girls Reelmojo. I have to be honest though and say that while I realise the game is far from finished I'm not all that impressed so far. Not too keen on the art style either. If/when it gets finished I'd still like to give it a try though. Interesting and surprising to read on their site that they're planning an arcade release too for Skull Girls.

As for Battle Monsters Ninja well that game looks really really bad but very funny too. LOL Definitely would like to give that one a try just for a laugh. Don't think I'd actually want to
buy it for my Saturn though.

That move in Dan Ku Ga when Gonzales knocks the opponent into space is very cool Bullet I agree. One of the things I like most about Dan Ku Ga are the destructible barriers at the sides which when broken reveal new areas to fight in. I imagine the developers of Real Bout Fatal Fury probably got the idea of destructible barriers from Kaiser Knuckle/Dan Ku Ga.

This thread has been an exciting journey of discovery that has forever changed my gaming and I appreciate everyone's contributions. I hope though we could please just use this thread to talk only about 2d arcade fighting games rather than console/computer/3d ones.
 
1983parrothead
The idea of destructible corners and walls started with Atlus' Power Instinct.

For Naxat Soft's Battle Monsters, that was developed by Scarab, who also developed Sammy's Survival Arts, both without credit. I don't understand why most digitized fighting games aren't appreciated much, but I believe the best one would have to be any of Kaneko's Jackie Chan fighting games, because they are most likely the fastest digitized sprite based fighting games in existence. Survival Arts has weapons to pick up and fight with, while Battle Monsters has multiple platforms to stand on, which both features were popularized by Nintendo's Super Smash Bros. series. Here are combo videos of both Scarab fighting games:

Survival Arts

Battle Monsters


Anyway, I encountered two more obscure fighting games:

SD-Fighters

Ninku
Edited by 1983parrothead on 04. October 2010 00:34
 
Arringtastic92
merlin wrote:

I'd say out of those that Dragon Master is the best one Parrothead. Definitely not amazing or anything but in it's favour it does look pretty good graphically. The gameplay is not too bad but IMO the characters are quite bland and unappealing designs. The guy who is practically naked and seems to fight in a sewer is the worst one. I never realised Konami had bought Unico and also didn't know about that Masters Fighters game. Interesting.

I'm glad that a few people here have taken an interest in Daraku. I had some good sessions with Ninja and 2D so far. More of those Japanese matches I mentioned have now been transferred to Youtube. Well worth checking out. These Japanese players know the game inside out.

http://www.youtub...olarasolas

Since Mame 0.138u2 came out a 'new' 2D arcade fighter is now playable on Mame: Alien Challenge. It's the first fighter from IGS and features a rather bizarre mix of characters including an alien, a clown, a werewolf, an American Football player and Santa Claus is the boss!

http://www.lucael...-Challenge

Move list:
http://www.ric.hi...index.html

I came across another game recently. I don't know if this would be classed as a fighter because although I think it has a 2 player vs battle mode it does seem to have scrolling sections too. It's Godzilla by Banpresto from 1993. So far it's unemulated by Mame.

Screenshots:

http://www.gameng...f376046394


Hi Merlin. What about Dragon Master Unico?
 
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merlin
I still feel the same about Dragon Master. Graphically it looks quite nice but the character designs are not very appealing and the gameplay while not terrible just doesn't hold my interest for long.

I've come to the conclusion that of all the games mentioned in this thread Konami's Dragoon Might is my favourite.
 
1983parrothead
Be sure to also check out Phantom Breaker if you enjoyed the PS1 version of Makeruna! Makendou 2, and the Asuka 120% BURNING Fest. franchise, because Masatoshi Imaizumi worked on all of them. The PS1 version of Mad Stalker: Full Metal Force and its relative Panzer Bandit also have 2D fighting modes.

There is another anime-style fighting game known as AquaPazza, developed by Examu and featuring AquaPlus characters.
 
cthulhu
1983parrothead wrote:There is another anime-style fighting game known as AquaPazza, developed by Examu and featuring AquaPlus characters.


Very nice game...I've bought it recently. Feels to me as a cross between Sengoku Basara X and Arcana Heart (Arcana Heart style without the homing dashes and Arcana but with a helper/ sidekick system like Sengoku Basara X).

I've just browsed through this thread and came to the conclusion that this thread made me buy a few PCBs: Asura Blade (actually got it twice), Asura Buster, Spectral vs Generation (cartridge), The Killing Blade Plus (sold it again) and Rabbit is on it's way (finally found the PCB). Still want to buy Dragoon Might...maybe after my holiday next month.
My arcade stuff

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