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3D Whores
GeeseTheDuck
I swear over half of Norway's population wont even touch 2d fighters,
and it really pisses me off!Angry most people takes quantity over quality
these days, like here the other day: i took the buss home from the city
after having bought fatal fury battle archives, there i meet a guy from
school he asks what i have in my bag, i show it to him and he asks:
"is it like tekken?" "kinda" i answers "except its in 2D"
he looks at me and says "2d? why do you bother with such old crap?"
"cause i like it" i say "like it!? damn what a noob you are!"
he started to look really pissed off so i just walked back in the buss and took a seat thereRoll Eyes
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Shiny
The funniest part of that for me is the irony of calling someone a n00b for playing "old" games... I know it's irony on a base level but Hell, it makes me laugh.

Unfortunately the world is full of pricks. Sad fact.

I'm kinda the opposite in that I can't understand why people waste their time playing 3D fighters'... In fact "playing" is the wrong word, I meant watching the pretty colours while pressing one button repeatedly. Kinda like WoW...
Edited by Shiny on 28. November 2008 05:05
 
SteveDave
I wouldn't value the opinion of someone who has probably never played a 2D fighter...THEN tries to use the word "n00b" in a serious manner. What a douche.




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HexElf
I guess this means we've reached the point where people have all but forgotten that once upon a time ALL games were 2D and that whole industry was built from the ground up "despite" that fact. I mean I can understand if people don't like Fatal Fury (noobs) over Tekken or whatever but thinking that something is bad simply because it's 2D eh... that's like dissing an entire album because it's on vinyl.

Regardless, congrats on getting FFBA vol. 1 there man! Lemme know how landing those supers (I swear FF3 has the steepest stipulations ever for those hahaha) and if playing around with the coloring gets old I think the AST for this one is real good. I mean it has not one but TWO remixes of Geese's theme song!
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RiKo
Well I really love 3D games and fighters myself, but I started on 2D fighters and at the moment the only console I play on really is my Neo Geo. I really do think 2D is going to make a big comeback soon. Todays consoles would really allow amazing animation and artwork to be showcased in truly spectactular ways.

I will say that when I first switched to my Neo Geo from Xbox and PS2 I did notice the chunky graphics and lack of smoothness in the animation (3D games being incredibly smooth). Of course I love the Neo Geo but it is only natural to notice such a contrast.

I actually think some modern 2D games do not push the hardware hard enough, the fact is graphics do matter, and most normal gamers do not want to play 2D games that look like they could have come out 10 years ago! We wouldn't want to play new 3D games that look like they came out 10 years ago either!

That guy is not really an idiot - just ignorant Smile

I have a dream that one day 2D games and 3D games will be able to live along side each other, happily on the shelves Grin
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GeeseTheDuck
Today i actually took a look around school asking peoples opinion on 2d games
and it surprised me how many people that didnt even know that there exists
new 2d games on consoles, that explains a lot of how ignorant today's gamers are

the majority of people answered that
"2d games are okay i just dont want to play em over 3d ones"
and that i can respect then the
"does gaming companies still make 2d games on console?"
sure, they dont know better
though after that comes the
"i dont play 2d games cause 2d sucks" people, they dont even gives the games a chance
and just want smooth graphics over gameplay, and last
"2d games are great! i play theme as much as i do 3d craphics means nothing to me
as long as the game is fun to play"
bless those few who answered that!
Edited by GeeseTheDuck on 28. November 2008 21:41
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Kazuya_UK
I know what you are saying, generally the attitude of people here is "those cartoony 2D games are for kids while 3D games are for adults cos they are more realistic". Heard people say that and it really annoys me! Angry

As you can probably tell from my username, I am a Tekken fan, but I enjoy 3D and 2D games. I wish there were more people that felt the same. Oh well, at least these days some of us can still play each other online if there is no local competition Smile

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reelmojo
RiKo wrote:I have a dream that one day 2D games and 3D games will be able to live along side each other, happily on the shelves Grin
While it may not happen on the shelves, just look at the X-Box Live Arcade. There are plenty of amazing 2d games on it that sell very well. Street Fighter HD Remix will probably break records, and games like Castle Crashers and Braid are doing great as well.

If you want it on the store shelves, look in the DS section. Castlevania, Tecmo Bowl, Metal Slug 7... and those are just the recent releases.

Sure, there will always be ignorant people, but the evidence is against them. 2d is alive and well. It's a great time to be a gamer.
Edited by reelmojo on 28. November 2008 20:23
 
Carmen
Which FF Battle Archives btw ? I mean, if its 2, thats great and all, but if its the first one, haha...
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RiKo
Reelmojo - You are right about there being quite a few very good 2D games - some great original ones too available on download for consoles.
This is a step in the right direction but it is not enough for me. Its like 2D games are not considered as important as 3D games. I want a new 2D release that is good enough to be released in the shops, and proclaimed as a major release - something original and beautiful.

One of my favourite ever games was Exile (BBC Micro and Amiga) - its is a very old game really but it had physics, creature AI and an open world structure - with lots of puzzle solving, and totally unscripted combat. It was huge as well for its time. If this can be achieved on an 8 bit machine - it just shows how great 2D games could really be - if developers got a decent team together and a nice budget - on today's machines.

I suppose 2.5D games (Viewtiful Joe etc) are really 2d games which have been updated for the current ara - but I do love hand-drawn graphics.
Edited by RiKo on 28. November 2008 21:31
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GeeseTheDuck
Carmen wrote:
Which FF Battle Archives btw ? I mean, if its 2, thats great and all, but if its the first one, haha...


its the first one, second have yet to come out where i live
Edited by GeeseTheDuck on 28. November 2008 21:44
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The eccentric cat
Carmen wrote:
Which FF Battle Archives btw ? I mean, if its 2, thats great and all, but if its the first one, haha...

LOL!
Just what is that supposed to mean, Carmen? Pfft


Anyway, I really don't see the appeal of 3D fighters. Granted, the only ones I play are Virtua Fighter, Soul Calibur, and KOF: Mazimum Impact 2. But still, most 3D fighters tend to be crap, with emphasis only on graphics, and the same bland juggle system that isn't even executed right most of the time.

... And also, Tekken's cast just keeps getting weirder. o_O
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GeeseTheDuck
The eccentric cat wrote:


... And also, Tekken's cast just keeps getting weirder. o_O


Says the guy with a Melty Blood avatar..
(which reminds me that the english MBAC patch is out, just if you didnt know)
Edited by GeeseTheDuck on 29. November 2008 12:28
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RiKo
I just ordered Melty Blood on PS2 - Cat made me Grin

I never understand why there is a division between 2D fighters and 3D fighters. So much work has gone into something like Tekken 5, and its a game you can play with your mates, plus believe it or not there *are* top Tekken players. I don't understand why people say newbies can win at it - if you're crap maybe? - just sidestep throw for a start or block counter. And there are some reversals too. Tekken teaches you to be very creative like a real fighter because an attack can come from anywhere - the juggle system is a bit crap though.

2D fighters and 3D fighters are more similar than they are different. You can enjoy 3D Shooters (Rez, Panzer Dragoon, Space Harrier) and 2D shooters (R_type, Gradius V etc). I don't understand why its so hard to enjoy 2D and 3D fighters. I can see why people prefer one type, but not why they *hate* the other.

I will defend Tekken to the end Grin

BTW What do you guys think of Guilty Gear X and its sequels?
Edited by RiKo on 29. November 2008 14:06
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reelmojo
RiKo wrote:
Reelmojo - You are right about there being quite a few very good 2D games - some great original ones too available on download for consoles.
This is a step in the right direction but it is not enough for me. Its like 2D games are not considered as important as 3D games. I want a new 2D release that is good enough to be released in the shops, and proclaimed as a major release - something original and beautiful.
I have to agree with you there. While 2d titles are considered just as important on handhelds, barely any are made for consoles. Let's keep our fingers crossed that KoFXII can sit on the shelf next to Gears of War and sell just as many copies. A pipe dream? Maybe, but we can hope.
 
RiKo
I really like the look of the new KOF. The only thing I wasn't sure about was the backgrounds and fat Ralf. I really like all the detailed people in the original Neo versions. I haven't seen enough of this game yet to make a judgement on that. I don't really mind too much about Ralf being huge, it might be good!

I'm not sure if this game is going to get the massmarket behind it, I would really like to hope so, but its still KOF underneath. Streetfighter II was huge when it came out, but so many years have passed, so many 2D fighting games, its hard to a expect a huge rush of interest. We are excited of course and I do think it wil convert some people Grin

I think SFIV will do a lot better myself, I know it is 3D but it is really a 2D fighter at heart, and it has the looks and spectacle to get people interested again.

Sadly you only have to see the magazines to see KOF getting 1 page previews, there's no Gears of War-like excitement:(
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The eccentric cat
GeeseTheDuck wrote:
Says the guy with a Melty Blood avatar..

... What's so weird about the cast of Melty Blood?

Street Fighter II HD Remix seems to have rekindled some for 2D Fighters. And now that King Of Fighters XII is almost complete, 2D Fighters aren't dead! Grin

Now that I think about it, there really isn't any reason for hating 2D graphics. What's so bad about them, why do people want them gone?:(
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Midian
The eccentric cat wrote:
GeeseTheDuck wrote:
Says the guy with a Melty Blood avatar..

... What's so weird about the cast of Melty Blood?

Street Fighter II HD Remix seems to have rekindled some for 2D Fighters. And now that King Of Fighters XII is almost complete, 2D Fighters aren't dead! Grin

Now that I think about it, there really isn't any reason for hating 2D graphics. What's so bad about them, why do people want them gone?:(


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And, Guilty Gear is and will always be my favorite fighting series. I want to play BlazBlue badly!
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GeeseTheDuck
The eccentric cat wrote:

... What's so weird about the cast of Melty Blood?



If you have read Tsukihime you should know that about all of the characters are kinda screwed up one way or another, Kohaku being the prime example of this
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RiKo
Eccentric Cat wrote :- Now that I think about it, there really isn't any reason for hating 2D graphics. What's so bad about them, why do people want them gone?


I don't know really. I think they see a 2D game and think 'Why isn't this in 3D?, this kind of game went out years ago' . Thats what people are like - they want to show off their new flashy games. People hate what they dont understand - Mathematics, art, Shakespeare, foreigners, and er...2D games

I still genuinely do believe 2D games will come back big-time one day, maybe with a twist though - Grin
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