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Shiny
Just an idea... I know that N-G.com has a pretty good price guide but I think we could put together, and maintain one of our own. A number of NGFL members like merlin, priest and Bullet etc. are very active collectors and must have a great idea of the current market values of most games.

It's a lot of work I know, and it would require input from a good number of members/collectors. We could even go one further than our brothers and not only divide between AES/MVS/CD but also $//EUROS...

As I said it's a lot of work, and maybe NGFL doesn't need one, but if others are willing I'm happy to help out or maintain it in anyway I can.
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cthulhu
Shiny wrote:
Just an idea... I know that N-G.com has a pretty good price guide but I think we could put together, and maintain one of our own. A number of NGFL members like merlin, priest and Bullet etc. are very active collectors and must have a great idea of the current market values of most games.

It's a lot of work I know, and it would require input from a good number of members/collectors. We could even go one further than our brothers and not only divide between AES/MVS/CD but also $//EUROS...

As I said it's a lot of work, and maybe NGFL doesn't need one, but if others are willing I'm happy to help out or maintain it in anyway I can.

I think that it's a great idea as the one on N-G.com isn't updated regularly and at some times a bit vague about the price of games. I think I do have some knowledge about the price of AES games and the price of Japanese full MVS kits as I have some sources (some great shops which might be a bit more expensive than others), I'm willing to help out whenever I have the time to do so.
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merlin
It's a interesting idea Shiny. I've always used the neo-geo.com price guides for reference and while there are of course fluctuations in the market I've always found them to be pretty accurate.

My view then is that it's not really necessary to have a NGFL price guide but then again there's no reason why we couldn't do one as well. Having AES/MVS/CD in one list and also different currencies are good ideas. I would definitely be willing to help out if we go ahead with this.
 
Will
Be glad to assist. Name your game on a request thread and I will search for the lowest price possible on Ebay, will that be okay? Wink
 
RiKo
I'm fairly aware of AES prices - but it would need some proper monitoring on Ebay over a time-period to get them accurate. To be honest I have seen the price guide on NeoGeo.com and I think it is over-inflated - but whenever someone posts on that site about this - they get destroyed.
I don't mind helping out with some games - but I can't do very many (I have a limited time to spend on the computer and I have to work on it as well). I'd quite like to do the all the Metal Slug games if possible.

My big tip on buying games from Ebay is to look for Japanese names. I got Last Blade AND Last Blade 2 for a total of 150 (2 games) - both in excellent condition. I found them under their Japanese name of Gekka No Kenshi.

*EDIT* A couple of weeks ago I got MOTW - I had been looking out for a copy at a good price for ages - so I already know this one. Japanese MOTW sells (at auction in excellent/mint condition) for 210-260. There are lot of buy-it-nows at a higher price but the actual auctions show what people are willing to pay.
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Hmmm that's a very interesting idea. I'm 100% up for adding something like that to the site if people want it, although I wouldn't be much use in updating it myself as I'm pretty out of whack with current prices now. Smile If we could keep it regularly updated and perhaps think of something that might make it a little different to the neo-geo.com one (any ideas?) it would be pretty damn cool.

One idea I have is to maybe give examples of where said cart has been seen selling for the price listed in the guide or something like that (for instance, links to ebay auctions or online stores that still carry the games or even forum buying/selling threads). It would help and perhaps lend a bit of authenticity. I remember looking at the neo-geo.com guide a lot when I was buying lots of MVS stuff and although it was VERY helpful there were times where I thought "man this price is nowhere NEAR what I know I could pay for the cart, it's way cheaper than that!".

It was also annoying because once or twice I've seen sellers say "I can't sell for that price cos neo-geo.com says it should be higher!", which was annoying as they obviously had no real clue what they were even selling. In one instance I think a member there said a store he went to said they would get their price list of carts they had for sale and it turned out to be a direct printout from neo-geo.com... lol LOL

What do you guys think? Also, I imagine it would be a lot of effort to keep it updated regularly though? Would people have enough time to check it at least once a week or something and co-ordinate with each other in making updates?

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Shiny
Kazuya_UK wrote:
Hmmm that's a very interesting idea. I'm 100% up for adding something like that to the site if people want it, although I wouldn't be much use in updating it myself as I'm pretty out of whack with current prices now. Smile If we could keep it regularly updated and perhaps think of something that might make it a little different to the neo-geo.com one (any ideas?) it would be pretty damn cool.

One idea I have is to maybe give examples of where said cart has been seen selling for the price listed in the guide or something like that (for instance, links to ebay auctions or online stores that still carry the games or even forum buying/selling threads). It would help and perhaps lend a bit of authenticity. I remember looking at the neo-geo.com guide a lot when I was buying lots of MVS stuff and although it was VERY helpful there were times where I thought "man this price is nowhere NEAR what I know I could pay for the cart, it's way cheaper than that!".

It was also annoying because once or twice I've seen sellers say "I can't sell for that price cos neo-geo.com says it should be higher!", which was annoying as they obviously had no real clue what they were even selling. In one instance I think a member there said a store he went to said they would get their price list of carts they had for sale and it turned out to be a direct printout from neo-geo.com... lol LOL

What do you guys think? Also, I imagine it would be a lot of effort to keep it updated regularly though? Would people have enough time to check it at least once a week or something and co-ordinate with each other in making updates?

Kaz


I think the idea of adding info about where the price was found is a great idea.

And I'm saying nothing about N-G.com's price list and the in-house Neo Store... Not a thing.

It would be a lot of effort for one person, but for many, coordinated by one I think it would be okay. As I said I'm happy to help any way I can.

I think that one list comprising AES/MVS/CD, different currencies, and the extra info already menttioned would be more than a good start. I'm sure that there's loads more info we could add should we wish to but I wonder if too much info might make it hard to read... I guess the idea is to be as informative as possible without becoming cluttered or unclear.
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viktorh
Nice idea! I'd like to help out in any way I can.
 
rbelmonte171
that would be great because i interested in finding out how much does a copy of SS zero special goes for...i've seen it for 900 dollars....
 
merlin
Shiny wrote:
It would be a lot of effort for one person, but for many, coordinated by one I think it would be okay. As I said I'm happy to help any way I can.

I think that one list comprising AES/MVS/CD, different currencies, and the extra info already menttioned would be more than a good start. I'm sure that there's loads more info we could add should we wish to but I wonder if too much info might make it hard to read... I guess the idea is to be as informative as possible without becoming cluttered or unclear.


I know what you mean because while I really like the idea of having a combined list with different currencies there's a danger of it getting too cluttered. I've been thinking about how we would do this price list and have come up with some ideas. They are just some loose ideas off the top of my head so I won't be in the least bit offended if people disagree.

Firstly I think we don't really need to indicate the rarity of the game like the NG.com list does.

I'm definitely in favour of having a combined list of AES/MVS/CD but I now think having three currencies might make it look a bit cluttered so I suggest we only have one. I completely understand why people might not agree with me on this.

I like that on the NG.com list it doesn't just give one average figure but both a low and high e.g. Art of Fighting 3 AES low $200 high $240. We could just put 220 but I prefer putting it like this 200 - 240.

Depending of course on how many people are interested in helping out we could say divide the list of games out so that say 2-3 people are monitoring MVS prices and the same with AES and CD. Each of these people could be responsible for monitoring a certain chunk of games.

I don't think we should update too often because you of course get temporary fluctuations in the market. We could each monitor our allotted games and then update say every two months.

Lastly I was going to say that I would be very willing to help out with the Neo CD part of the list because while there are loads of AES/MVS owners here not as many people are interested in the Neo CD.
 
SteveDave
I agree with merlin about having one currency. Even if it wasn't US, I don't mind using a converter...what's a few extra seconds.

Also, I could help with AES stuff for the price guide. I think I do enough Neo related shopping to stay up to date LOL
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RiKo
I think US Dollars is definitely the best currency to use - the majority of purchases I have made are in US dollars (even from the far east). Euros come next - the pound is a bit weak at the moment to use that anyway.

I actually agree with everything you said Merlin - you should have made some more controversial suggestions Smile
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Shiny
Ok, so we're all up for it then. Boring bit ahoy...

I think it'd probably work best with one member responsible for maintaining the whole thing, and others responsible for seperate sections, reporting (as it were) to that one person. Others agree/disagree?

It'll be a bit of work setting it up initially, but once there simply updating the prices shouldn't be too much of a chore. And I think that a monthly/bi-monthly update is more than adequate.

Anyone got any ideas about layout?

Title--NGH/P--Year--Megs--AES L/H--MVS L/H--NGCD L/H--NGP L/H--Comments
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merlin
I agree with RiKo about using US dollars. I'm also used to seeing Neo Geo prices in that currency. I'll try to be more controversial next time RiKo. Smile

Shiny wrote:
I think it'd probably work best with one member responsible for maintaining the whole thing, and others responsible for seperate sections, reporting (as it were) to that one person. Others agree/disagree?


Agreed. Perhaps you should be the list 'co-ordinator' Shiny. (as long as you don't mind that is) We can email you the data every 2 months. (or whatever interval we agree on)

Shiny wrote:
Anyone got any ideas about layout?

Title--NGH/P--Year--Megs--AES L/H--MVS L/H--NGCD L/H--NGP L/H--Comments


That sounds about right to me. Of course we have to arrange it so that under each format we list the price for each nationality of a cart/cd. Japanese, US (and European for AES). Perhaps a few small flag icons under AES etc. Like I was saying before just to be slightly different from the NG.com list we could just put the value like this: 200-240 and not have two seperate columns for low/high. If we are going to do what Kaz suggests and include a few examples then maybe that could be in the 'comments' section.
 
Will
I don't find US dollars reliable, because that currency doesn't help me find the best values in items. Its easy to convert the currency but hard to judge the optimum value. I am indeed obsessed with being economical. A dollar was worth 0.33 Maltese cents and a euro is worth 0.43. With Euros I can anticipate better values for any products on ebay. If you have any doubts or hesitation of what currency should be generally shown, Euros, US dollars or pounds sterling, I say we do some private currency voting poll.

Regarding a product request page, how would you design it? I think all of us, not just me should be able to search any shopping site then give any vital information on the page. That way, anyone can instantly find in the request page without having too much of a hassle trying to comb the web for a product before expiration sales dates fast approach. Don't go it alone Shiny, you're going to need all the extra hands you can get. Cool

Perhaps there more than just AES and NCD games you are looking for, like Neo-Geo merchandise, and SNK games of other consoles (SNES, Sega Megadrive, Sega Game Gear, Turbografx16 etc.)
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Shiny
Will wrote:
I don't find US dollars reliable, because that currency doesn't help me find the best values in items. Its easy to convert the currency but hard to judge the optimum value. I am indeed obsessed with being economical. A dollar was worth 0.33 Maltese cents and a euro is worth 0.43. With Euros I can anticipate better values for any products on ebay. If you have any doubts or hesitation of what currency should be generally shown, Euros, US dollars or pounds sterling, I say we do some private currency voting poll.


The reason for choosing US Dollars is not one of economics, or of exchange rates but simply because it's the currency most importers of Neo software deal in, and the currency that the majority of buyers deal in too. USA is the largest market in the world after all. And whatever currency we choose will inevitabley result in folk having to do some conversion.

Will wrote:
Regarding a product request page, how would you design it? I think all of us, not just me should be able to search any shopping site then give any vital information on the page. That way, anyone can instantly find in the request page without having too much of a hassle trying to comb the web for a product before expiration sales dates fast approach. Don't go it alone Shiny, you're going to need all the extra hands you can get. Cool


A product request page? Do you mean a page where we would keep a track of all Neo related sales everywhere and then members could search here, rather than search the web themselves? That sounds like a full time job, haha. Prices don't fluctuate all that much, and I think that simply having a comments column pointing towards the site/seller, not a particular sale itself should be helpful enough. Besides, I love hunting for bargains and under-cutting the "values" of games, such a page would take away from that. I want to create a guide to values so that fellow Neo shoppers don't get ripped off, I don't want to hold their hand and walk them to the mall.

Will wrote:
Perhaps there more than just AES and NCD games you are looking for, like Neo-Geo merchandise, and SNK games of other consoles (SNES, Sega Megadrive, Sega Game Gear, Turbografx16 etc.)


This is a nice idea but unfortunately keeping a track of the values of these ports/accessories is nigh on impossible. Also, too much information will render the guide cluttered or unreadable, imo. It needs to have enough info yet remain simple and easy to find the game you're looking for at a glance. I do appreciate all of the input however.

merlin wrote:
Agreed. Perhaps you should be the list 'co-ordinator' Shiny. (as long as you don't mind that is) We can email you the data every 2 months. (or whatever interval we agree on)


I don't mind at all, it was my idea after all. It'd be a bit off of me to suggest something that's so much work only to say "I ain't doing it though!", haha. As I said before, I want to help create and maintain the guide, and if everyone is happy for me to "coordinate" everybody's efforts, I'm more than happy to do it.

merlin wrote
Shiny wrote:
Anyone got any ideas about layout?

Title--NGH/P--Year--Megs--AES L/H--MVS L/H--NGCD L/H--NGP L/H--Comments


That sounds about right to me. Of course we have to arrange it so that under each format we list the price for each nationality of a cart/cd. Japanese, US (and European for AES). Perhaps a few small flag icons under AES etc. Like I was saying before just to be slightly different from the NG.com list we could just put the value like this: 200-240 and not have two seperate columns for low/high. If we are going to do what Kaz suggests and include a few examples then maybe that could be in the 'comments' section.


I forgot about US/J/EUR... D'oh! Yes, I agree completely. Seperate columns for nationality, and one column for value as you suggested, rather than low/high.

I think the comments section would be perfect for Kaz's suggestion, and also for any other info like, I dunno, everything that the AoF3 NGCD box set contains so that potential buyers know what's supposed to be there. How gutted would you be if you spent 30 on AoF3 only to later find that there should have been some stickers in there too...
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RiKo
I've started tracking the Slug games. MS4 seems to be the pauper of the bunch at the moment. I wonder if the general economic downnturn will have any impact on NG game sales. They are after all luxuries. Maybe a good time to buy if the prices dip.

Well done for stepping up Shiny - hope you aren't too inundated.
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RiKo wrote:
I've started tracking the Slug games. MS4 seems to be the pauper of the bunch at the moment. I wonder if the general economic downnturn will have any impact on NG game sales. They are after all luxuries. Maybe a good time to buy if the prices dip.

Well done for stepping up Shiny - hope you aren't too inundated.


MS4 being the lowest value doesn't surprise me really, almost every review is biased and largely unfair. The sales reflect this. And the value reflects that. It's a great game, massively underrated.

I had a wee scout around today and it's good to see that the values of NGCD games have remained largely unchanged, meaning they're all cheap as chips. Even Metal Slug and Pulstar seem to be going for sub 40... Good news for us NGCD collectors. That'll be me and merlin I guess, haha.

Some of the AES sales are outrageous though, I saw Fatal Fury Special going for 75... Not on my watch. Problem is that while we, owners/collectors with experience, know that some of these sales are ridiculous others do not. It just reminds me why an accurate guide is needed. Just because it has Neo-Geo written on the box doesn't necessarily mean it's worth a boatload of reddies, newbie buyers may be unaware and taken advantage of by sellers that throw the word "rare" around like it's going out of fashion. Er... Sorry. Ranting.

Anywho, yeah, I'm more than happy to help cripple these kinds of sellers, and lend a helping hand to our brothers with good honest advice. Solidarity.

Sounds like a fucking crusade, hahaha. LOL
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RiKo
The mint + complete Metal Slug 4 (Jap) AES I was tracking finished at 101. I wish I had some money in my account - I would have bought it.

I don't understand why on Neo Geo.com it says on the Price Guide page - 'The ended auctions of eBay do hold relevance related to current market values. '

Surely they are the best indicator of what people will actually pay, rather than inflated collectors prices - who are looking to sell at a similar price to what they paid for an item even if that price is out of date.

Yeah thats a lot for FF Special - Shiny . Isn't that a 20 game or something?

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Shiny
RiKo wrote:
The mint + complete Metal Slug 4 (Jap) AES I was tracking finished at 101. I wish I had some money in my account - I would have bought it.

I don't understand why on Neo Geo.com it says on the Price Guide page - 'The ended auctions of eBay do hold relevance related to current market values. '

Surely they are the best indicator of what people will actually pay, rather than inflated collectors prices - who are looking to sell at a similar price to what they paid for an item even if that price is out of date.

Yeah thats a lot for FF Special - Shiny . Isn't that a 20 game or something?


I think I paid about the same including postage for my copy of MS4... That was some time ago though.

I think the reasons N-G.com don't take eBay auctions into account is becuase A, sometimes they can end up going for much less, and equally much more than the actual value as is the nature of auctions, and to get an accurate view of value from such sales would require gathering info on a helluva lot of them to find a proper average. And B, doing so may potentially hurt Shawn's in-house NeoStore. But maybe that's just the conspiracy theorist in me. Wink

And yeah, FFS should be pretty cheap, it's not exactly rare.
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